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Any one dig Vidyapati?
Ritupati rati rasik vrajraj, rasmay ras rabhas ras maanjh
Rasvati ramani ratan dhani rai, raas rasik sah ras avagai
Ranginigan ras rangahi natai, ranrani kankan kinkini ratai
Rahi rahi raag rachay rasvant, rati rat raagini raman basant
Ratati rabab mahatik vilas, Radharaman karu murali vilas
Rasmay Vidyapati kabi bhan, Rupnarayan bhupati jan.
In the spring moonlight the lord of love
Thro' the amorous ravel's maze doth move;
The crown of love love's raptures proves;
For Radha his amorous darling moves ,
Radha the ruby of ravishing girls
With him bathed in love's moonlight whirls.
And all the merry maidens with rapture
Dancing together the light winds capture
And the bracelets speak with a ravishing cry.
And the murmur of waist -bells rises high--
Meanwhile rapture -waking string
Ripest of strains the sonata of spring
That lover and lord of love- languid notes
With tired delight in throbbing throats.
And rumours of violin and bow
And the mighty Queen's-harp mingle and flow ;
And Radha's ravisher makes sweet measure
With the flute,that musical voice of pleasure.
Vidyapati's genius richly wove
For King Roupnaraian this rhythm of love.
Jai Shri Radha-Krishna!
Ritupati rati rasik vrajraj, rasmay ras rabhas ras maanjh
Rasvati ramani ratan dhani rai, raas rasik sah ras avagai
Ranginigan ras rangahi natai, ranrani kankan kinkini ratai
Rahi rahi raag rachay rasvant, rati rat raagini raman basant
Ratati rabab mahatik vilas, Radharaman karu murali vilas
Rasmay Vidyapati kabi bhan, Rupnarayan bhupati jan.
In the spring moonlight the lord of love
Thro' the amorous ravel's maze doth move;
The crown of love love's raptures proves;
For Radha his amorous darling moves ,
Radha the ruby of ravishing girls
With him bathed in love's moonlight whirls.
And all the merry maidens with rapture
Dancing together the light winds capture
And the bracelets speak with a ravishing cry.
And the murmur of waist -bells rises high--
Meanwhile rapture -waking string
Ripest of strains the sonata of spring
That lover and lord of love- languid notes
With tired delight in throbbing throats.
And rumours of violin and bow
And the mighty Queen's-harp mingle and flow ;
And Radha's ravisher makes sweet measure
With the flute,that musical voice of pleasure.
Vidyapati's genius richly wove
For King Roupnaraian this rhythm of love.
Jai Shri Radha-Krishna!
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Re: Vidyapati
Thu, February 22, 2007 - 10:51 AManyone dig Him? not when He is called Radha's ravisher I don't, but maybe something just got lost in the translation, or maybe she would want to get ravished by Him, and the "merry maidens?" it sounds like Robin Hood.
But all this shows is my demoniac tendency to not wish to serve Krishna, don't listen to me. Of course Radha is referred to as the ruby of ravishing girls that sounds good to me. -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 12:24 AMVidyapati is the poet. Who he refers to as "Radha's ravisher" would be Govinda. -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 8:17 AMOh thank God because I can't STAND it when anyone but KRSNA wants to ravish Radharani!!! -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 11:10 AMThanks for explaining that Austin if anyone would ravish Radharani I'm sure it would be Krisna it's just that I don't like the idea of Him ravishing her, she probably would enjoy it only I feel it is my duty to protect her from Him unless SHE is in control. Yes I know when Krishna knocks the pots of yogurt and things off the gopis heads they really like it and are only pretending not to. But I just feel a little protective of her I don't know why. If only someone would come in here and defeat my mayavadi mind that thinks it already likes a postion of servitude to Srimati Radharani despite the fact that I am a conditioned soul. What will it take for someone to be able to do this? As one person new to Hinduism already felt here at Tribe, maybe my feelings for Krishna and Radharani are genuine if I feel that strongly about it. Who can defeat my mind in just a few sentences out there once and for all? Who is there that can give me proper chastisement every time I go astray philosophically and put me in my place? Or shall I wander around forever in the mood of separation from Radharani because no one ever took the time to correct me? Should I be able to get away with IMAGINING I am a maidservant of the servant of the servant of the Dearmost servant of the Master of the Gopis? Doesn't it make anybody ANGRY enough to want to CHASTISE me? I guess I can do whatever I want then.
Well then I will say it, I AM VERY ANGRY AT THIS BOY KRISHNA! WHY DOESN'T HE LEAVE RADHARANI ALONE! LET ME AT HIM I WILL CHASTISE HIM SEVERELY, I AM SO MAD AT HIM! Why can't He leave Srimati Radhika alone in peace! Go away Lord Krishna, just go away. -
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Re: Vidyapati
Fri, February 23, 2007 - 11:15 AMI know how to defeat me. Just explain to me the difference between the pure love that the gopis have for Radharani, the ones who serve her, and the contaminated stool I have in my consciousness. That's all it should take. How dare I even think of comparing my lust for Srimati Radharani with the pure love her own maidservants have for her. Can't anybody preach to me? No wonder people start to think that maybe sahajiyas might be right. People like, oh, I don't know, maybe Saul and Parvati. I'm not saying they think it is alright to be a sahajiya, but I seem to remember them each inquiring about it.
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 12:16 PM>>Who is there that can give me proper chastisement every time I go astray philosophically and put me in my place? Or shall I wander around forever in the mood of separation from Radharani because no one ever took the time to correct me? Should I be able to get away with IMAGINING I am a maidservant of the servant of the servant of the Dearmost servant of the Master of the Gopis? Doesn't it make anybody ANGRY enough to want to CHASTISE me?
I'll message you in private as my answer is inappropriate for this tribe.
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 12:24 PM>>I AM VERY ANGRY AT THIS BOY KRISHNA! WHY DOESN'T HE LEAVE RADHARANI ALONE! LET ME AT HIM I WILL CHASTISE HIM SEVERELY, I AM SO MAD AT HIM!
I'll post the only appropriate part. Krsna absolutely has every right with Radharani. Why be mad at that? Who are you to chastise the Lord? -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 12:45 PMThank you Austin for stepping in here. Someone's gotta have a level head on his shoulders. Apparently all the "devotees" are too timid, not wanting to step on the toes of another devotee, just in case he really is a real vaisnava.
When I first read some of Radharama's posts, I was very skeptical of him and he made me almost scared that someone besides Krsna would want to serve Radharani. I remember posting a chastisement, with a prayer under my breath that it won't draw his attention, lest he try and talk to me. Almost as if by magic, Radharama picked up on my vibe and started following me around. Even he followed me to the Santa Cruz mountains tribe, tried to apologize to me there. I didn't like someone following me around who had some "thing" for Radharani, who I definetely feel is Krsna's property. But then one day I awakened to the simple fact that it's okay to serve Radharani. Every single acarya in our line has told, "We are the maidservants of Srimati Radharani!"
But on this day, Radharama, you have gone too far! I will not stand here and allow you to proclaim that you want to chastise Sril Krsna!!! I will not tolerate ANYONE (and I mean ANYONE) declaring a desire to cause harm to our sweet Sri Krsna. -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 2:09 PMYes, Austin Prabhu has put me in my place by telling me who do I think I am, only Krishna can enjoy Radharani. It is a fact that I only wanted to selfishly serve Radharani for myself. I dont want Krishna to enjoy Her. I wish to be the one who relishes her mood of separation. If she wishes to enjoy with Krishna then I would probably also enjoy somehow knowing that she is happy.
But why am I so angry at Krishna? I don't know, I guess I am just envious of Krishna. I certainly am not in a position to chastise Him. All I can say is if I wanted to be a gopi in Krishna's group and, let's say I was bathing and Krishna stole my clothing(complete speculation) I would secretly like it. And if Krishna stole the gopis clothes and I heard about it I would relish that they really liked it too. But if I saw Krishna doing it I might become angry, except for the fact that I would know the gopis weren't actually angry. But such exalted pastimes why should I speculate about any of this? I know Krishna gets chastised by Radharani and Lalita sometimes but I don't understand why or what their moods really are. But it does make my blood boil if He doesn't treat Radharani the way that I like, the way I want Him to treat Her!
I don't want to be in Krishna's group I wish to be in Radharani's! It's as simple as that and I know "first deserve and then desire" I don't deserve I shouldn't be talking about it but it's too late, I have heard about it already! If you dangle a carrot in front of an ass and then take it away the stupid animal might still chase it. I have heard about it, and I want it, serving Radharani in her camp. It's there. It is a type of rasa. Some gopis have that rasa and I don't know if a jiva can even be a gopi but if I can't at least I just wish to be anything at all in radha's camp. I don't care if it is a speck of dust so long as I am there. As far as a service attitude I don't have one. I just with to enjoy, that is the problem. I just wish to enjoy Radharani's mood. Especially when she is in separation. What can I do? What can I do? What can I do if I don't take birth as Radha's maidservant or a speck of dust under her lotus feet? I will run, run, run away from Krishna's camp as fast as my feet will take me! I hate Krishna1 I Hteare Krishna! I hate Krishna and I don't ever want to be with himwsear!!!!!!!!!!11111111 -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 2:10 PMAnd Brinda I did NOT follow you to the Santa Cruz Mountains it was just by coincidence that I ran into your posts over there! -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 3:08 PMWell in any case, these things are normal human emotions. Envy of Krsna is what landed us in the material world anyway. I know you really want to give voice to that ugly monster.
Furthermore, it's true, even in the highest spiritual world that people try and approach Krsna directly, instead of serving him as a manjari, through the more qualified gopis. I've heard that this leads them toward a lot of suffering, as in the case of Candravali.
I hope you can find some love in your heart for Krsna too or I fear things will go askew. -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 4:33 PMNo, I don't love Krishna, and because I cannot find any cases where someone doesn't love Krishna even though they like to serve Radharani in the spiritual world I can only conclude I am a demon. So it's back to square one, I have to give up any desire I may sentimentally have for serving Radharani, and instead cultivate serving Krishna!
No! I just can't do it! Shirley there must be someone in Vrndavana somewhere who is serving Radharani. What about her maidservants who take care of her clothes? I guess they must tell her all about Krishna. I can't. If I have to tell Radharani stories about Krishna what should I do? I guess I will have to serve nobody.
I guess I won't be going to the spiritual world after all. O Radharani, won't you please take compassion on this fallen condtioned soul? Please help me I don't know what to do? Please don't make me serve Krishna, I went to his village and all he did is make me cry! That's why I don't like Him! In fact I hated Him when He did that to me. I am not His toy to do with what He likes! I am YOUR eternal maidservant not HIS! But I'm stuck here in maya, please get me out! Please let me take birth as Your eternal maidservant lifetime after life. -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 4:57 PMRadhe,,,Radhe,,,,Radhe,,,,Radhe,,l,,,EraraheD....RAdhaRahadEEeeRadharRadhareRadhealllRareadke.
RadheallllRadhe....Radhe...Radhje...Radhe...Radhe...Radhe....Radhe....Radhe....Radhe...Radhea....Raehe....Radhe.... -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 4:59 PMPlease make me your eternal maidservant, please, please please please please lease!!!!! -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 5:02 PMI'm dying,,, hack , cough, wheeze, I can't live, hack, cough , choke, I can't breathe, hack cough wheeze, oh help me!(banging my head on the desk) I can't take it anymore(crying) oh the pain, oh the separation! -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 5:09 PMHow can I go on? O Radharani, I know it is wrong, but I have to pray for that type of liberation where I can live in YOUR eternal place of residency. I want to serve YOU! I can't stand to not serve you! I want to serve you always and if I'm not serving you then I want to remember you. Of course I want you to be happy, go with Krishna, do whatever you want. I am glad if you want to be with Him. But HOW I AM SUFFERING HERE IN THIS MATERIAL WORLD WITHOUT HEARING ABOUT YOUR PASTIMES! Without knowing what you do, without being able to serve you. My life is useless. What good is this body? What good is my soul? When oh when will that day be mine when I will be able to go to your village and serve you like I did before? O radhe! Please Help ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 -
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 5:18 PM(collapsing on the floor, breathing my final breath, I somehow manage to bring my typing fingers up to the keyboard and type...) RAdhe! Radhe! Radhe! Radhe! Radhe!.... and die.
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Fri, February 23, 2007 - 11:40 PMAnyway.......... Vidayapati anyone? Does anyone else want to share some verses? I don't know much of his work, I only recently came across him. -
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Sat, February 24, 2007 - 1:52 PMAustin, I can't believe you have no sympathy or reverence for this poor soul who cries to Radharani in this fashion. I must admit that it touches me. -
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Sat, February 24, 2007 - 3:27 PMIt's not that I have no sympathy, there just isn't really anything I can do about it. I've already messaged him/her in private and said the only thing I could which he/she just dismissed as 'demonic'.
What response could be given to such neurotic ramblings? I'm not a psychologist. If he/she doesn't want to take the simple logical advise I gave him/her in private then it's really out of my hands. Plus he/she has about 100 threads in various tribes just like this, can we just keep this one on subject and talk about Vidyapati? -
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Re: Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead
Sat, February 24, 2007 - 8:16 PMI'm glad you posted this! I think the world is ready to hear the truth about Krsna and the gopis. Perhaps it CAN help humankind ascend into the Vaikuntha planets and beyond. Bhakti are you for real? god I hope so! i too would like to be a manjari but i don't go around telling it as much as you do. All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga!!!
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Re: Vidyapati
Sat, February 24, 2007 - 10:43 PMnava vṛndāvana, nava nava tarugaṇa
nava nava vikasita phul
navala vasanta, navala malayānila,
mātala nava ali-kula
viharai navala kiśora holi range biharaye
kālindī pulina, kuñja nava śobhana,
nava nava prema vibhora
navala rasāla, mukula madhu mātiyā,
nava kokila kula gāya
nava yuvatī-gaṇa, cita umatāyai
nava rase kānane dhāy
nava yuva-rāja, navala nava nāgari,
(yemni rādhā temni śyāma)
milaye nava nava bhāti
niti niti aichana, nava nava khelana,
(ho ho ho ho holi rańge!)
vidyāpati mati māti
Vrndavan is new and fresh (due to spring), and the trees are new and ever-fresh. The blossoming flowers are ever-fresh.
The new spring and the new Malayan (southern) breezes are inebriating new bumblebees.
The young adolescent Pair (Radha and Krsna) thus enjoys. On the bank of the Yamuna is a beautiful new arbour overwhelmed by ever-fresh love.
The new cuckoos sing, inebriated by the fresh mangoes with their honey-filled buds!
Overcome by new, feelings filled with love the young girls run into the forest (to meet Krsna).
The young prince Krsna and the fresh young heroine. (Just as Radha does, Krsna does it also) Are meeting in ever-fresh splendour. Thus they nicely play Their ever-fresh pastimes, maddening the heart and mind of Vidyapati. -
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Re: Vidyapati
Sun, February 25, 2007 - 11:42 AMSomehow I think all that Hari-Kathaa Bhakti told on Shiva tribe made an impression. -
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 3:16 PMOn the hearts of the stone hearted Shivaites? I just joined Tribe so I don't know the entire story. Where is all the Krishna katha? -
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 7:11 PMI've searched Tribe far and wide and haven't found a thing about Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Only things related to Him, which are the same on the absolute platform, but still, where is that Krishna Tribe?
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